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"And so you realize the society there, the consumer trust in Ukraine, it's like everybody's so untrusting that they just carry like literally thousands and thousands of dollars in cash, and they just hide it around like little chipmunks." One question Toukhcher knows is coming: Why, in his most recent appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast, in July, did Peterson refer to the Ukrainian-born Toukhcher as "the crazy Russian"?